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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2014.06.17 20:39:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Fourth.
Supported for great justice, great nullsec and because I've always said that the only way to fix sov is to remove it.
But that's unlikely to happen. People already cry about the announcement of destructible stations, imagine the floods when they don't have sov anymore and need to defend and actively claim it.
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.06.21 06:55:00 -
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Smugest Sniper wrote:
To tl;dr
Doesn't change really anything save the lack of actual possibility to control and protect where you live, disallows any real diplomatic agreements outside of what already exists, and doesn't really let any growth or development of where you choose to live.
All of this coupled with the fact that you can't really 'live' in null if someone will just hell camp you out of your outpost because they too can just dock up against right in your home.
Only partly true. It would certainly not change human's infinite capabilities of being simpleminded. However, even if you are camped into the station, you can still get away in nullified ships if you are prepared and have insta undocks. And even if you cannot properly live like the people in core 00 constellations (main areas of activity for bigger alliances), you at least have it easier to get a small foothold in 00, without the former permission of or submission to the big players. How well it goes for you from there, is up to the players, but you have at least a chance to do your own thing.
The statement about "disallows any real diplomatic agreements outside of what already exists, and doesn't really let any growth or development of where you choose to live" bases on the current mechanics, which is a little bit short sighted. If sov is removed and stations accessible for everyone, new mechanics to control access to stations/planets/moons would be introduced which suit the new situation.
Smugest Sniper wrote:Dr Cedric wrote:
Activity = ownership, plain and simple
Bring Military and Indy to 5 you gain control of that system progressively more.
Have fun keeping that if you are not in the system(s) all the time. Without the current sov mechanic, you can only enforce your claimes in areas where you are actually present. Where nothing happens from your side, you don't "own" the space.
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
598
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Posted - 2014.06.22 13:28:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:guess pandemic and N3 would roam and burn every damn stations in eve ^^ 
You would be on the forefront of this party. Until a couple of stations have died and both of you realize that this is not so good for 00 after all ... (maybe it even takes a couple hundred stations until the both of you come to that conclusion.  )
Would definitely be an interesting sight. The current loot pi+Ķatas are a mute buzz against this. 
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.06.22 17:25:00 -
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Well, new problems would make the 00 game at least a bit more interesting than the current stalemate with its bilgy frowst.
- Activity in systems gives you options like the current sov
- If you "own" the system, you can set docking rights on stations (solves every problem with station access in your space, but leaves lots of options for out-of-alliance stations for other people)
- If you "own" the system, you can set access rights to moons and planets (solves every POS/PI related issue and keeps lots of room for other out-of-your-alliance players to do stuff in other systems)
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